Too risky, yes...

Kinja'd!!! "Wheelerguy" (wheelerguy)
11/27/2015 at 03:05 • Filed to: None

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...but holy shit just imagine 2002-season F1 cars racing on that layout. Or hypercars. Or even just SAE cars.


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Kinja'd!!! Tareim - V8 powered > Wheelerguy
11/27/2015 at 03:11

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They would be awesome, though doesn't the banking connect to the main straight? As the current map above would surely make them race where all the support series would have their pit


Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > Wheelerguy
11/27/2015 at 03:33

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Seems to me like it would actually be very boring. You’d have to set the cars up with pretty much zero downforce, so then cars would have to just about crawl round the few corners, and it would just be one long drag race apart from that.


Kinja'd!!! Sam > davedave1111
11/27/2015 at 03:57

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Normal Monza is nearly the same, and it’s still exciting to watch. They’d have to add in the chicanes, though.

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Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > Sam
11/27/2015 at 04:14

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Normal Monza isn’t that different, but it’s about the proportions. Give it any more emphasis on straight line speed, and the corners will become irrelevant in setup terms.


Kinja'd!!! Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > davedave1111
11/27/2015 at 04:36

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More tire, less downforce. Problem solved?


Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch
11/27/2015 at 04:38

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1. More tyre

2. Less downforce

3. ...

4. Profit?


Kinja'd!!! Wheelerguy > davedave1111
11/27/2015 at 04:43

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Well, I dunno, really. We can try, but there’s that problem of us dying doing so.


Kinja'd!!! Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > davedave1111
11/27/2015 at 04:44

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3. Passing/good racing in F1

(I got the reference)


Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > Wheelerguy
11/27/2015 at 04:57

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Just wait until the Yanks turn up to tell us that dying in the cause of profit is your civic duty.


Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch
11/27/2015 at 04:59

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I don’t think it’s that simple, sadly. What I’d like to see is double-sided pitlanes: put garages down either side, cut the length to half, less time spent at the pitlane speed limit, hey presto, more tyre stops, more flat-out racing.


Kinja'd!!! GhostZ > davedave1111
11/27/2015 at 05:12

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This is why they added the chicane to the original monza circuit. It was a full-power no-downforce track and people’s speeds were too high to be remotely safe in cars that had very little low-speed downforce for braking or turning.


Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > GhostZ
11/27/2015 at 06:13

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I was leaving safety issues out of it, because everything in F1 has been limited by safety concerns for well over half a century.

I just think it would be a really boring race. You might as well just dyno all the engines and hand the prize to the one with the highest output.


Kinja'd!!! Tareim - V8 powered > GhostZ
11/27/2015 at 08:24

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The Audi R18 deals with no chicanes without much problem during testing


Kinja'd!!! Tareim - V8 powered > davedave1111
11/27/2015 at 08:24

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wait... There’s profit to be had in racing?


Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > Tareim - V8 powered
11/27/2015 at 09:02

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But that’s in testing, not in a race. It’s a bit different to use the track for testing straight line speed or some such to actually racing on it with those kinds of speeds.

At the end of the day, we’ve been able to build cars that were too fast for anyone to drive safely for many decades. Pretty much every rule is designed to slow them down to safe speeds.


Kinja'd!!! davedave1111 > Tareim - V8 powered
11/27/2015 at 09:03

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Hah, not for many people.


Kinja'd!!! tromoly > Tareim - V8 powered
11/27/2015 at 11:49

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The modern layout uses a little over half the front straight, there’s room to split the straight like they did in the past.


Kinja'd!!! tromoly > Wheelerguy
11/27/2015 at 11:50

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Formula SAE cars with a top speed of ~90mph would be boring, and I personally would not want to go much faster than that on a <60-inch wheelbase.


Kinja'd!!! Dusty Ventures > Wheelerguy
11/27/2015 at 16:04

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At least the Monza Rally Show still kinda uses the banking


Kinja'd!!! NJAnon > Wheelerguy
11/27/2015 at 16:13

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Well, just having a track that crosses over itself would be cool. Yeah I’m sure people with higher pay grades than me would have to figure out all the math and science behind it, but I would like to see wheelerguys concept track be a reality in some form.